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Australian Constituency - by Craig Hill

Integration - it's a no brainer

September 12th 2006 00:39
The debate on whether or not people immigrating to Australia should integrate is an interesting one, but we need to ask ourselves what we mean by integration.

There's no doubt that Australia benefs from the millions of immigrants who have come from countries around the world. A person's world view is heavily influenced by the country in which he or she is born and raised and when people from other countries come to Australia they contribute to the depth of culture and maturity in this country.

Certain thing about Australia are open to change and ought to grow and develop as new influences come to our country. In a liberal democracy people are free to practise or not practise their religion of choice. They are free to debate, protest, learn, study and express themselves. What they are not free to do is obey a law other then the law of the land.


People come to Western countries such as Australia for a very good reason. They seek the stability and prosperity associated with a liberal democracy in which the rule of law is paramount, in which men and women are treated equally and contracts between strangers are honoured.

Kim Beasley suggests that Australian visas should contain a statement of values which people should agree to abide by when entering the country.

Better than that I suggest that people wishing to immigrate sign a declaration that they regard the laws of Australia as paramount and that they agree to obey those laws before that obey any other body of law. It is this undertaking which lies at the heart of a stable society and it is not too much to ask that all members of society agree to it.

If these aspects of our culture are open to change and compromise not only will Australians lose the way of life they value, potential immigrants looking for a better way of life will have one less country in which they can find refuge.


If integration means knowing and agreeing to obey the laws of Australia before all other laws, I'm all for it.
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Comment by Ahmed

September 12th 2006 02:09
Well that is what integration means. THere is no problem with it, everyone who comes here integrates just fine.

Whats hapepning is these politicians and journalists are looking for quick boosts in their popularity by attacking people who don't even exist.

All they do is create resentment and nothing else.


People who immigrate and become austrlaian citizens take that oath, and follow it for the most part. I think its john howard and his goons who are not following that oath with their acquisations and such.

Comment by jon

September 12th 2006 06:15
I think most people would sign whether they believed it or not..

Comment by Ahmed

September 12th 2006 07:37
I think they do without signing it, that is there reason for comng after all.

Comment by Helen's House

September 12th 2006 15:41
I think we need to go further. Immigrants need to sign an undertaking to obey Australian law or have their visas revoked. That way there is a clear understanding that we mean business. No-one who is compliant would suffer and there is no racial bias about this. It's a general rule. Other nations are doing it and I think Australia needs to have that right. Not just because other nations are doing it of course, but just to give the law some intestinal fortitude.

Australian law is too soft and needs to develop some teeth.

This is a personal opinion only, not representative of anyone but myself.

Comment by Ahmed

September 12th 2006 15:46
Well the thing is there is absoloutely nothing wrong with integrating. Everyone does it, there is no cause for alarm. It's just so over hyped, it is made out to look like there are hundrends of people coming to Australia and not integrating when it clearly is not the case.

Sure, they might dress the same way they used to, they might eat the same food they used but damned if that isn't their freedom of choice.

However they obey the laws we obey. If we are going to start going over the top by acting all bad ass it's just going to create resentment with the internation community. Do we really wan't to greet new immigrants with accusations that they are not going to integrate and are going to be sent back?

Comment by Anonymous

September 12th 2006 16:38
Well, we tell people that if they speed the fine will be $X, and if they do other crimes the sentence will be X years, and that doesn't bother anybody who isn't doing those things. I can't see this is any different.

Comment by Cibbuano

September 13th 2006 00:30
I don't see how asking immigrants to sign something will improve anything in Australia?


Comment by Helen's House

September 13th 2006 04:03
I agree, Cibbuanl, that the signing probably won't affect anything. My case is that law needs to have teeth.

Comment by Cibbuano

September 13th 2006 05:29
are you saying that immigrants should face stiffer punishments than Aussies?


Comment by Helen's House

September 13th 2006 05:59
Definitely not. Everybody faces the same penalties for the same crimes. Perhaps I am saying that
Australia wants and welcomes migrants who can assimmilate and accept Australian laws, and that those who
cannot should return home. There is a lot more at stake here as some totally unacceptable practices
are arriving. I think we have to stand very firmly about what is not acceptable.

Comment by Cibbuano

September 13th 2006 07:59
I agree to a point. After all, if Aussies had to accept SE Asian laws, there'd be a lot fewer Aussies going to Thailand, Indonesia, etc...

Comment by Ahmed

September 13th 2006 08:45
Lets not create unecessary laws. It's not like people come here and don't integrate on purpous or anything even remotely similar. There is no integrating problem in Australia no more than there is a man killing sting ray problem.

It's all in your head, no need to get all worked up over nothing, for once people should stop being so easily jerked emotionally by the media and politicians.

Comment by Suburban Boy

September 13th 2006 22:52
If we are asking immigrants to sign a declaration that they view Australia's law as paramount above all else will this be enforceable? Don't you think people will sign regardless of what they think if it is going to mean being able to immigrate? Shouldn't all Australians be made to sign it and how would this affect people who are fundamentalist christians. I would think that some of them may regard abortion and stem cells law as beingagainst their christian beliefs.

Comment by Ahmed

September 13th 2006 23:54
It's a bit extreme to say the laws are above all else. You can't tell a Muslim to uphold Australian laws higher than their own religion for instance. Not saying it means they are going to not uphold australian laws but that to them it would be disrespectfu to do so.

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